I have to question the sincerity of this apology after reading your earlier posts about the incident. ~100058~. You said on twiter you were resigning, was that a troll? I highly doubt you would care one iota if not for the public outcry. You have brought shame and dishonor to CCP, CSm abd the entire Eve community. Do the right thing and step down from CSM.

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From: EnderCapitalG
To: Darius III

Uhhhh okay?

This warranted sending me an evemail, why?

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LOL
From: Darius III
Sent: 2012.03.27 00:43
To: EnderCapitalG

Keep posting that, never mind that Devs said there never was ANY NDA conversation leaked...


Mittani will have to step down, I will think of you when he does. LOL LOL LOL HAHAHAHA enjoying your rage as I sit on CSM7

no matter how hard you guys try, this is not about Darius but about Mittens and hes tasteless behavior

This topic is going sideways, to be chairman or not to be, to be CSM or GSF leader, to be part of the Sandbox or to be morally constrained by the real world. This is a lot of bullshit and knowing Alex for the past year, him being able to separate his role as CSM chairman and his role of the evil Goonswarm empire CEO, and doing a damn good job at it, while representing the views of those that are cursing him right now in this thread. Well aint this just so polliticly correct thing to do eh?

In other news, am stuck waiting for my next flight in Sydney, this thread does provide some mild entertainment, but I must reflect on the things CSM6 must do in the view of the CCP's keynotes at the Fanfest. I think Alex (Mittani) will do the same if you stop this silliness.

He said he would step down, probably just as chairman, which isnt enough to make it right. People in power never resign except for religious officials caught in sex scandals. He will cling to power in any form. Th eapology is not IMO sincere in the slightest, look at what he wrote immediately following the first post. This is damage control, nothing more.

He knows that resigning completely from CSM7 is the right move, but he will not. We will see how CCP responds to this soon I think. He made this presentation in advance, I know this guy, trust me he bullies people if he thinks he can get away with it. I know first hand, having seen it myself in CSM. He excluded me from Skype shat before I ever even made an introduction post. This is how he is, and the real Mittani is the one on stage not the one apologizing in the OP.

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From: Darius III
To: Ice Fist
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Keep saying that there was NDA breach when devs said clearly there never was. I will continue enjoying your impotent rage as I sit on CSM6, 7 and 8. Toodles. Mittani will be out in 24 hours, bet?

Thats wriggling Tyrrax and you are only saying it because you are a desperate goon wannabe at heart (but I forgive you)

When the leader of the CSM gets up on stage and acts like a drunken prat he's doing it as the leader of the CSM - I've been the chair of that organization myself and I know what the position entails and the example one is supposed to set to the community. If I had drunkenly slured out racist abuse on the alliance panel as SF Executor you can bet people wouldn't be standing up and saying "its okay Jade was doing it as an RP anarchist not the chair of the CSM!"



You are about as independent as a monkey on an organ-grinder's chain.

I like how everyone is glossing over the fact that Mittens did not give a f-ck about what he did until he realized that he'd really screwed up after watching all the relevant media on it. He's not sorry because he realizes what he did was wrong and feels bad about what he did and realizes that he's a horrible person - he's sorry because it had personal and "professional" consequences. What he's doing with this apology is trying to mitigate the damage.

I mean this is a guy who admittedly enjoys ruining the game for other people, and has admitted that that's why he plays this game.

Get your heads out of the sand. All Goonswarm is is propaganda - they even have youtube videos about it making fun of the EVE playerbase for being dumb and falling for it.

Probably because we weren't paid 10B ISK to let it go.

This sick and sadistic attitude of Mittani's is hopefully not just his "roleplaying as a bad guy" ideals coming out in real life. If this would be the case, it would imply that he is in a deep state of psychosis and is unfit to be a public figure to stress the opinions of multitudes of people. I certainly do not condone this behavior as acceptable. As said before, "The real you comes out when you are drunk".

In a game of 360,000 players... 10,000 is hardly a vast majority.

So when CCP contacted you and told you that your ass better apologize on forums ASAP, what was the first thought that ran through your mind?

No Troll (and probably the only post I've made so far I can say that honestly to): He's trying to pass the Chairmanship off but more than one person has refused it.

Weather or not the person was suicidal is completely irrelevant to the argument from both a legal and PR standpoint.

Actually, unlike your head honcho I don't claim fame for other peoples work.

:effort:

Kneejerk resignations are stupid whether they happen in business, politics or internet spaceship slapfights. And a couple of poorly researched negative articles on a few niche gamer websites are hardly worldwide bad publicity. Google news search "Eve Online" or "Eve Fanfest" and I only see 3 hits, none of them main articles. When some mainstream media picks up on it then you'll have a point but they tend to do a little more research than web forums and twitter.

Actually yes you are, you thinking that's an acceptable logic really makes me worried about your moral principles, this is what worries me in mankind, your logic...

First off, it's not something I'd ever say personally and find objectionable because that's not what I do, but I'm not the goonest of the goons either so I also believe one has to keep a sense of proportion and perspective.

The Mittani, CEO of goonswarm and notorious ahole did a presentation, he did so in that quality. While he does also have a seat on the CSM, he didn't act in that capacity anymore than he did act as a lawyer, as an american or as a male. Saying it's the same thing would be akin to saying "American incite others to harass blokes, death to all americans".

Circumstances play a role, it's fanfest where goons spend days pretending to be idiots or griefers. There was also booze involved.

It's blown out of proportion, people would do well to get out of the lynch mentality and analyze the actual damage/impact for a moment before calling for blood, or are we requesting that CCP ban all those who "hoped" CCP Soundwave would die in a fire for InCarna?

Mittens, your apology might have been believable if you hadn't also been consistently saying the same outside of the Alliance Forum. At the Null Sec round table you got a laugh out of the crowd for talking about "Murdering" newcomers to the game.

Given that you're apologizing here and banning people who disagree with you over on Kugu.com, I'm going to go with 'obvious troll'.

The body currently headed by The Mittani is discussing recent events involving the behaviour of The Mittani? Cool.

He used his position on a public stage provided by CCP to mock, bully, and attempted to instigate widespread harassment of another player in real life.

So what's the math on any future lawsuits in which the plaintiff uses CCP -not- banning The Mittani for this as evidence that CCP was grossly negligent in letting behaviour like this go unpunished? Wrongful death awards can range pretty high, and a decent argument can be made for comparative negligence if they let it stand.

We have a living breathing example of Alex calling for someone to be harassed to a real life death. Its no longer a hypothetical. EvE is only barley dodging a bullet on this because we caught it before it had real world ramifications.

Its real and staring us in the face at this moment.

In other words, if you were in charge of CCP's legal dept, you would wait until we have an actual dead body before taking any sort of unnecessary and irreversible action...like a ban or a banishment from CSM. You know you're probably right. I'm sure their legal department is advising they wait until there's a DB before doing anything. No DB no foul right?

The CSM of which he is chairman or is comprehension beyond you. Since you cant understand the implication of that quote her is another one from Mittens where the goons dont even get a mention.

"As CSM Chair, I offer sound guidance and guardianship of that power; I'm one of the first to truly wield it effectively. I'm here to protect the nullsec population against the existential danger of allowing an ignorant hiseccer and Greyscale to get together and talk about jump bridges. I'm here to keep the focus of the game on spaceships instead of a testbed for WoD or a venue for more pants. It's a guardianship."

Yes its a guardianship and he has failed in his role. At least he has aplogised and intimated he will be resigning. YOu however are defending the indefensible. What I find most amusing is you think he represents the goons? He represents himself the goons are merely a tool for him to get the publicity his ego needs. THe goons are the fat girlfriend left at home whilst mittens goes out clubbing with the pretty babes in the gaming press. If I were a goon I would feel used and a bit dirty.

Bzzzip...*sees mittani giving the goon an inject and saying what he should think*

goodluck being a drone of the mittani goonswarm, instead of thinking for yourself, as a human being.
And allowing your precious dictatorial wanabe leader to form your thoughts for you.

Goons you should be ALL ashamed.

If he attempts any of that it will turn into a bigger storm then he is in now.

I don't really care about in-game politics or bashing someone because they are the leader of a larger alliance.

But I do think he is an utter disgrace and unfit to represent the EVE community. People can use the excuse "he was drunk, people do silly things when they are drunk". Agreed, but you take responsibility when you're sober.

Resign.

Between peers?

hmm.. if they were jokes between just goon members or CFC members then that is fine, however when you randomly attack people on the forums how do you know they do not take it personally?

Personally I think that what was said at fanfest was somewhat tame by goon standards. However, compared to other years, I thought that the Titani's presentation sucked.

Hopefully he'll kill himself.

When the hammer falls, and you are pulling your hair and gnashing your teeth and scream WHY??!? you can come back to my posts that you say "likely have no damn clue" and figure out what happened from there. Alex really HAS put CCP in an awkward position legally and they have no choice but to act. You'll know what I'm talking about soon enough. (Okay that may be too much to hope for, but you will at least have an inkling that I was right.)

For me the best parts of this thread are the goons burying their beloved leader, one shovelful of hate at a time. By expressing so eloquently that most of the goons really don't "get it", you have helped make action by CCP in order to set an example almost 100% guaranteed. Yeah I know, this is baffling and angers you greatly. That part is fun too, I admit.

Also, I find it laughable that this myth that The Mittani made the CSM not a "total joke" anymore hilarious. What I remember is he went to Iceland, full of promises of how his extraordinary real life political know-how (somehow proven in a game setting) was going to ensure full CCP compliance with the goon agenda. His return from Iceland was followed by the WORST Eve expansion ever and massive protests were undertaken. These protests, and much more importantly the massive un-subs, prompted CCP to reverse itself. The Mittani and the rest of the CSM were flown to Iceland again to be coddled by CCP and given a modicum of credit for the changes CCP was forced to make as a purely business decision. He/they returned "victorious" from a battle that was won before they even left the ground in their plane.

Did I miss something?

Oh no! Not the banner of our publicly available forums! What shall we do?! :psyduck:

Next you'll be telling me that CCP's TOS applies to TEST's private website.

Your butt-hurt sarcasm and tears fuel my posting engine. Moar plz.

This gets better and better. Spelling lessons from a Goon!

Oh they are. If they ever post an apology thread of their own, I'll be sure to post in it. :)

Hows replacing those titans going son?

ABLOO BLOO BLOO

Admittedely, that was a horrible fitting. The standard is now 3x Gyros on a Bus.

goons have a history mocking a dead bob player

The only reason this came about was because it was implied by your corpmates

And like count. I think Im 80 likes up from these two threadnaughts, trebling my like count ftw. My e-peen is fully stoked now.